tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post4763292108158574463..comments2024-02-24T18:44:39.324-08:00Comments on Trials & Tribulations: The Polanski Case: An Overview of the CrimeSprockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-64856445597061114752009-10-02T21:38:15.391-07:002009-10-02T21:38:15.391-07:00Film director Roman Polanski agreed to pay his sex...Film director Roman Polanski agreed to pay his sexual assault victim $500,000 to settle a lawsuit 15 years after he fled the United States, according to court documents provided to media outlets Friday.Norahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14418551036491989541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-78805737049290437602009-10-02T17:47:47.773-07:002009-10-02T17:47:47.773-07:00Anon @ 9:31:
The grand jury testimony stated it wa...Anon @ 9:31:<br />The grand jury testimony stated it was Anjelica Houston who let Polanski and Samantha on the premises; however, the Polanski probation document says a caretaker named Helena Kalliniaotes let the pair into the home and gave permission to take the champagne.<br />Kind of amazing that two official documents have such different information.CaliGirl9https://www.blogger.com/profile/06639398512708841968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-70611547027015588962009-10-02T16:59:35.490-07:002009-10-02T16:59:35.490-07:00Karen, you bring up an excellent point.
Samantha ...Karen, you bring up an excellent point.<br /><br />Samantha was no pure little 13-year old girl. She testified to having had intercourse twice before she was raped; she admitted to having been drunk and to having taken Quaaludes. Back then (as now, but usually a less successful tactic I hope) the victim’s character would have come into question, and I think that there were potential problems with a prosecution—your DNA problem being just one.<br /><br />Anjelica Houston was prepared to testify that she thought Samantha could have been up to 25 years of age, one of that kind of girl who could look years younger or older, and that Samantha didn’t act distressed. There could have been an argument made that the semen on the panties was Steven’s—can’t prove or disprove the source back then, and the only sure thing known was Samantha was alone with Polanski and Steven that night. There could have been a question as to when the semen got there in the first place. I’ve not read anything describing the condition of the panties, though forensic scientists were not able to observe motile sperm in the semen sample.<br /><br />Famewhores never make for sympathetic victims or witnesses. Anyone remember Punkin Pie or Jennifer Hayes Riedl in the Phil Spector trial? A pair of most unlikable women … neither were terribly effective witnesses. Might Samantha's mother be just as sympathetic as either of those two witnesses?CaliGirl9https://www.blogger.com/profile/06639398512708841968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-17978559452199436252009-10-02T15:37:43.934-07:002009-10-02T15:37:43.934-07:00If he was a low-life like Couey then everyone woul...If he was a low-life like Couey then everyone would STILL say off with his head.....but money and power negate this. I have always felt these parents need to be held accountable.....such as the ones who put their own into Michael Jackson's bedroom and so forth.<br />Wes J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-44728150441403465012009-10-02T14:57:38.019-07:002009-10-02T14:57:38.019-07:00I had a Writing teacher in undergrad days who &quo...I had a Writing teacher in undergrad days who "knew" Polanski in a peripheral way, and got into a big rant once in class about how terrible it was that Poor Roman was having to flee to Europe, how the Mom had virtually "thrown" her daughter into his arms, the girl was no little angel, blah blah. It infuriated me, as I felt his was clearly a "boys-will-be-boys" attitude. Thanks Caligirl, as the transcript makes clear just how wrong he was.<br /><br />Polanski had the best of legal and financial resources a perp could have and he could easily have fought the rape charge and pretty likely (I hate to say it) succeeded- he said, she said, no DNA then. He could've claimed he just got excited but didn't actually "do" anything, and she would've had her butt handed to her by his Defense on the stand. Yet, oddly, he pled guilty to rape. For some reason known only to himself, raping a 13 yo girl was less terrible than pleading guilty to plying her with booze and pills!Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-46472170204682196812009-10-02T14:53:26.008-07:002009-10-02T14:53:26.008-07:00WOW, what a great piece. I am also nauseated at th...WOW, what a great piece. I am also nauseated at the behavior of everyone involved in this debacle. I have 2 daughters and the whole thing makes me cringe. Polanski should serve time just as he would have if he hadn't fled the country. Hollywood needs to get some moral backbone and brains UGH! Is this how these Cali liberals want their children treated?sharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00372975265112892344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-81609735900708555932009-10-02T13:59:20.744-07:002009-10-02T13:59:20.744-07:00He has a penchant for very young women. He was wi...He has a penchant for very young women. He was with a really young woman after he fled to Europe. Not sure if he married her or not. They should prosecute him to the full extent of the law. My one wish is that Polanski and Spector could have adjoining cells. These two men have single handedly hurt and ruined more people's lives than can be believed. I used to be a Spector supporter, but, let me tell you, I had my aha moment. He's right where he belongs and I thank the good people of T&T for waking me up. The truth was always right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-72068729008842863992009-10-02T11:32:18.344-07:002009-10-02T11:32:18.344-07:00What fascinates me most about this post, so well w...What fascinates me most about this post, so well written and all the details, is the mother's oblivion to what was going, on, or was she?<br />Why would she allow her child, her daughter, to be allowed this time with Polanski. It is true in photography, outside influences interfer, I can say this as a former stylist who did endless shoots with celebrities who had their entourage there.<br /><br />Now, I am not in anyway endorsing Polanski, or supporting him, I worked as a stylist for decades, legit, in print and commercials, and believe me, I have see the 'mothers' who would do anything to get their children ahead. Thankfully, there, in legit shoots, photo and commercials, were constraints in place, with teachers required, hours, etc. How seductive would a wanna be Hollywood mom enticement be than to be her child in a French magazine?<br />Stupid woman.<br /><br />When Caligirl uses the term 'fame whore', well, so many have fallen into this trap over the years, and still continue to do so. <br /><br />While I await the courts to deal with Polanski, nothing I have a vested interest in, yes, he overcame a horrific life in many ways, no excuse. <br /><br />May I also add, I had, still have, one of the most beautiful sons on the planet. He was born beautiful.<br />I was stopped at malls by everybody, and many who handed me cards as agents, casting directors, you name it. I got calls from him summer camps, yes true, that casting agents were there, and he was always singled out. I declined any offer, never responded to anything. I trusted nobody, and hey, he has gone onto a life of no celebrity, but he has remained safe. This was the 80s, and us mothers, or some of us, were all more alert, maybe to Polanski. I live in LA, it was news.<br /><br />Sorry to be wordy, but completely fascinated by Caligirl's post, fabulous writing, and truly takes things into perspective.Jesdamalanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-15109510376243018842009-10-02T09:31:26.515-07:002009-10-02T09:31:26.515-07:00Thanks for the overview. I thought I read that it...Thanks for the overview. I thought I read that it was not Angelica Houston, but the caretaker of the property that let them in to Nicholson's house and let them have the champagne. Houston came home afterward? <br />And, I agree with Ronni, parents were much more nieve then. Doesn't make him less of a sexual predator, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-85437350757704485632009-10-02T07:27:42.849-07:002009-10-02T07:27:42.849-07:00Thanks to CaliGirl for the report. I have been fol...Thanks to CaliGirl for the report. I have been following this closely. About all I knew about Polanski was from the Helter Skelter book and Chinatown being one of my favorite films. I was aware that Polanski had plead to statutory rape before fleeing the country, but did not know the full details.<br /><br />Polanski should have to stand before justice and be held accountable. <br /><br />David From TNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-22522208050743667812009-10-02T01:17:04.186-07:002009-10-02T01:17:04.186-07:00Excellent account which puts all into perspective....Excellent account which puts all into perspective. This is a guy with extreeeemely bad Karma and he seems to be bent on making it even worse by his behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-37205261359754750122009-10-01T23:46:47.304-07:002009-10-01T23:46:47.304-07:00Thank you CaliGirl9 for a wonderfully detailed acc...Thank you CaliGirl9 for a wonderfully detailed account. I am following this one and appreciate your hard work and excellent reporting, as always. <br /><br />LindseyLinZbeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-19180862218673804882009-10-01T21:28:02.711-07:002009-10-01T21:28:02.711-07:00CaliGirl9, I can't wait to read part II becaus...CaliGirl9, I can't wait to read part II because you outdid yourself with this entry. Just fantastic.Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-4621724606961562052009-10-01T20:55:03.766-07:002009-10-01T20:55:03.766-07:00It was a different time and place. I remember let...It was a different time and place. I remember letting my daughters go places with people I wouldn't dream of allowing in this day and age...nowadays, thanks to the increase in predatory behaviour, we have learned to be more careful. Back then, we parents were somewhat naive. And girls were not taught to stand up for themselves the way we teach them now.<br /><br />Those flags might not have been as red or flapped as briskly in the late 70s.Ronnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02062796442588373271noreply@blogger.com