tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post5448516531831391121..comments2024-02-24T18:44:39.324-08:00Comments on Trials & Tribulations: Casey Anthony Murder Trial: SENTENCINGSprockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-5551684758580740092011-07-09T07:41:01.858-07:002011-07-09T07:41:01.858-07:00My 2 Cents E-mailed me back with a further breakdo...My 2 Cents E-mailed me back with a further breakdown of her calculations, which I offered to post.<br /><b><br />My 2 Cents said:</b><br />Hi Betsy, <br />WOW - some outcome, eh? What a shock that was. <br /><br />RE the post I sent to T&T re DAYS ("time served", "behind bars", etc) - I wasn't actually referencing any "gain" time or "good behavior, etc. AND MY MATH MAY BE "RUSTY, that's for sure . . . but on hearing the statement the court made to reporters initially that there was "1043 days time served" (before any adjustments, etc) and an InSession comment/post that Caylee lived 1042 days - I had to check it out - it seemed too ironic. <br />While rechecking Casey's actual "days behind bars" since Cindy reported Caylee's disappearance on July 15, 2008, I came up with the 1043 DAY NUMBER. And then I really freaked a little. Maybe others don't think its that coincidental, but I do. I mean, what are the odds? <br /><br />Of course, you can "play with the dates" a little, . . . i.e. - Do you count the date(s) she is released? The date(s) she is arrested, etc? I explain how I did it below. And maybe I have the actual dates wrong that she was released, etc - some of the timelines on-line vary a little, but I think I have them correctly. Either way - pretty weird in my opinion. How eerily ironic (even if they ended up being off by a day). <br /><br />Thanks - My 2 Cents<br /><br /><br />So here is how I figured it: <br /><b><br />RE: 1043 DAYS as of the day of CASEY's sentencing, yesterday July 7th </b><br /><br />AND FYI: I'm not sure what that "new" updated "time served" number of days totaling 1007 DAYS represents. It doesn't add up unless they subtracted dates associated with the FRAUD and CHECK CHARGES (not sure what that number is). I'm just looking at "days behind bars", the days Casey has been incarcerated as relating to CAYLEE being reported MISSING, and then to later be discovered DEAD is (if I have these dates down correctly, which I might be off - I admit. AND my "math" may be rusty as well. LOL ) is: <br /><br />Arrested July 16th 2008 <br /><br />So lets make this as simple as possible. <b><br />The number of days from July 16, 2008 thru July 7, 2011 (date sentenced) = 1087 DAYS </b><br /><br />Now lets BACK OUT the days Casey was "free" on bond (not serving "time"): <br /><b><br />1st released</b> on bond by Padilla on Aug 21, 2008. Casey was then rearrested and back in jail on August 29, 2008. That's 7 days "free", because she had actually served (i.e. - been "behind bars") part of the day on both 8/21/08 and 8/29/08). So now we are at 1080 DAYS. <br /><b><br />2nd time Casey was released</b> was on Sept 5, 2008 thru October 15, 2008 (10/14/08 Casey indicted & 10/15 Judge denies bond & Casey back in jail). Lets not count the 5th or the 15th, because Casey served partial days behind bars on those dates. That leaves an additional 39 "free" days, not serving time. <br /><br />So, 1080 DAYS - 39 DAYS = 1041 DAYS<br /><br />However, during this "free time" of Sept 5, 2008 - Oct 15, 2008, Casey was rearrested (she actually turned herself in) on Sept 15, 2008. She was charged, thrown in jail and then released sometime the next day, Sept 16, 2008 with an ankle monitoring device. So lets add in those 2 days since she was "behind bars" and not actually "free" on Sept 15th & 16th. So when we add those 2 days to the 1041 DAYS, we have the grand total of 1043 DAYS "behind bars". <br /><b><br />Number of DAYS that CASEY was "BEHIND BARS", at the TIME of HER SENTENCING,</b> July 7, 2011 . . .<br /><br /><b> 1043 DAYS. <br /><br />Number of DAYS that CAYLEE lived </b>(August 9, 2005 - June 16, 2008), . . . <b>1043 DAYS.</b> (Feb, 2008 included an extra "leap year" day)Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-57651686007715630492011-07-08T06:27:26.087-07:002011-07-08T06:27:26.087-07:00Hello My 2 Cents!
I think your calculations might...Hello My 2 Cents!<br /><br />I think your calculations might be off. WFTV in a new report stated:<br /><br />QUOTE:<br />Orange County corrections officials said late Thursday they had recalculated Casey's release date. With time served and credit for good behavior, she is now due out on July 17, her 1,007th day in jail. <br />END QUOTE<br /><br />Here's the link to the story.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/28481802/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Anthony Jail Release Date Pushed Back </a><br /><br />And on that note, I am closing the comments. Thank you all for reading.Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-46557478565756269402011-07-08T00:52:14.298-07:002011-07-08T00:52:14.298-07:001043 DAYS - "TIME SERVED":
As a part of...1043 DAYS - "TIME SERVED": <br />As a part of Casey's sentencing, her "time served" days needed to be properly formulated. Then the court announced the official number of days served was 1043. Shortly after that someone stated on InSession that Caylee had lived to be exactly 1042 days before her very short life came to a halt. I thought "how bizarre" (and ironic). Curious, I decided to recheck those figures to see if it was accurate . . . GUESS WHAT? They FORGOT the "Leap Year" in 2008 before Caylee died. Therefore CAYLEE had actually lived EXACTLY 1043 DAYS. <br /><br />CASEY's "time served" = 1043 days<br />CAYLEE's "number of days on this Earth = 1043 days<br /><br />I find this BEYOND BIZARRE. I am not one of those folks who runs around proclaiming to see the Virgin Mary in a piece of toast nor did I sit around playing Beatle songs backwards in the late 60's trying to figure out if "Paul was Dead". But I have to admit, this made me stop and ponder how this coincidence could happen. I mean really . . . . what are the odds? VERY, VERY STRANGE INDEED. <br /><br />posted by: "My 2 Cents"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-7453704926291681922011-07-07T22:32:21.670-07:002011-07-07T22:32:21.670-07:00I think the problem with the jurors is that they w...I think the problem with the jurors is that they were hand picked. Personally I believe picking candidates who fit the right profiles for defense and prosecution is just plain wrong.<br /><br />The computer should send letters out to prospective jurors, perhaps being sure it is ethnically balanced, and then the jurors should show up in court to be examined. the ones who are really hard to take should be eliminated (bigotry, bias etc) but then there should not be all these questions to probe how they might react.<br /><br />My sense is that the jury was tainted by a lot of things and also #3 basically said that FROM EARLY ON jurors had mentioned there was no cause of death. I believe I heard that. It tells me they were not "heeding Judge Perry's admonitions" in fact they were probably whispering about it and getting into some sort of line.<br /><br />I just cannot believe that they came back after 10 hours, never asked for any clarifications from the judge, never asked to see any evidence or videos. This was a lazy group.<br /><br />Perhaps it would be 1000% fairer in this day and age to allow them to go home, live their life and know about the case. I know that by listening to the evidence, my views changed as it went on. I believe most people have the brains to do the same.<br /><br />In any event, it's a sad, sad day to think that a woman I am extremely sure is guilty as H... is not only getting off but heading toward more fame and fortune.<br /><br />Did anyone notice how slutty looking Casey looked today, the day of sentencing, pouty provocative make up, quite different from what my husband noted as her careful attempt to look like a frail VICTIM throughout the trial, a victim and defenseless, getting hugs all the time from that woman lawyer. Now we have the pouty temptress once again.....ChristineZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-63785657931350837342011-07-07T18:43:30.058-07:002011-07-07T18:43:30.058-07:00These jurors must have been in it only for the mon...These jurors must have been in it only for the money. That's the only explanation for this travesty. Caylee will never have justice due to these 12 individuals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-70538875497354409232011-07-07T18:17:18.878-07:002011-07-07T18:17:18.878-07:00Yes, I believe the CSI did effect this jury. What ...Yes, I believe the CSI did effect this jury. What a lazy bunch of people. They wanted a tidy ending at the end of a 60-minute show.<br /><br />It appears that the 6 jurors that believed Casey was guilty of manslaugher acquiesed to the 6 who wanted to acquit her. The 6 who believed she did kill Caylee simply gave up and did not stand their ground. I can only imagine the 6 who wanted to acquit were just tired of the whole thing and just wanted to go home. These people did not do the job they signed up to do.<br /><br />The statements that they couldn't understand what the cause of death was and couldn't connect the dots show that this jury was pretty much brain dead. They couldn't even comprehend the Prosecution's last statement of who benefited from Caylee's death.<br /><br />Casey NEVER reporting her daughter missing let alone for 31 days (Cindy Anthony was the one who called the police), Casey's lies to EVERYONE that continually evolved to deceive, chloroform in the trunk, computer searches for things that cause death, duct tape (THREE pieces) on the face, heart sticker, human decomp and Caylee's hair with death ring in the trunk,triple-bagged and thrown into a swamp to rot, hearing the jailhouse and police interview tapes, Casey sitting in jail for three years for an accident when she didn't have to, stopping talking to the police, abandoning her car in a parking lot with her purse in the front seat hoping it would get stolen, her family lying on the witness stand to cause confusion because they their daughter was guilty, etc., etc. <br /><br />All circumstantial evidence, yes but circumstantial evidence is very powerful and compelling. This jury did not bother to put all the pieces together and look at the total picture. <br /><br />And now juror #6 wants $60,000 for his comments. I wouldn't give him 60 cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-24461980174074354962011-07-07T18:09:33.378-07:002011-07-07T18:09:33.378-07:00We had a mock jury on a site I am on. Our jury sp...We had a mock jury on a site I am on. Our jury spent more time debating this case than the jury. I would love to know if the juror who had to go on the cruise pressured everything about getting out of there so they could take their cruise. <br />6 vs 6 - this alone is sad. The 6 alone caved on their views, but why? To go home? Do these people not stand up for what they believe? They didn't even take the time to deliberate this? If I was on the jury, I would rather left with a hung jury than what they gave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-6598922562752950052011-07-07T18:03:08.816-07:002011-07-07T18:03:08.816-07:00As to not knowing how someone died, if juror #3 me...As to not knowing how someone died, if juror #3 meant the cause of death, then no--in theory at least--it is not necessary to find murder. But if she meant manner of death, it IS necessary to find that the death was a homicide (death at the hand of another) to find murder.<br /><br />Even with respect to the cause of death, that issue is very intertwined with the elements of murder (i.e., 41 stab wounds would suggest both malice and possibly premeditation and deliberation for that few moments of reflection that are required).<br /><br />If you don't know at all the cause of death, and there is no evidence of planning and preparation, I could see how jurors might find it difficult to convict of murder--especially in a death penalty case where you want to be darn sure before you kill someone with your verdict form. <br /><br />BTW, the MSM is reporting that Casey Anthony’s release date is July 13, 2011—next week!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-46513302296197625332011-07-07T17:35:28.223-07:002011-07-07T17:35:28.223-07:00As everyone knows, trials are won or lost in jury ...As everyone knows, trials are won or lost in jury selection. While I do think that Judge Perry is a stellar jurist, I believe that he rushed the jury selection process in a significant way. Because he is also the chief administrative judge his role and responsibilities encompass the financial constraints and considerations involved in the costs incurred with 2 weeks in Pinellas County. He also had to contend with the small window of time that he was allotted for use of their court room. Just as a comparable reference the Scott Peterson case took 11 weeks to seat the jury.<br /><br />I do wonder why 4 members of Casey’s jury have criminal records. Why would they be selected by the Prosecution? I do remember that they were running out of jury pool candidates and also the time deadline was fast looming. I do not place any blame on the Prosecution because I think that their hands were tied. I do think that it was very unwise for Judge Perry to have such an arbitrary deadline fixed for this most all important process.<br /><br />Juror #3 said: "You can't punish someone for something if you don't know what they did." <br /><br />Juror #3, it was NOT YOUR JOB to PUNISH Casey Anthony. It WAS your JOB to LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE and USE COMMON SENSE. You were not handing down PUNISHMENT in this phase. Did you skim over the words "Caylee is Dead" on the Juror Instruction sheet?<br /><br />Here is the real Juror #3, she has a lot in common with Casey, they both like to write bad checks.<br />http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1410423NancyBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03356062566096810280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-80997470710651125102011-07-07T17:09:18.893-07:002011-07-07T17:09:18.893-07:00A little off topic and maybe I just missed it some...A little off topic and maybe I just missed it somewhere....What happened with the Contempt of Court charge against JB?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-41199618056107900992011-07-07T16:01:21.562-07:002011-07-07T16:01:21.562-07:00Betsy you always have a good take on things. I per...Betsy you always have a good take on things. I personally never watch those CSI shows---I find them boring---but I do know that for decades (centuries?)that people have been convicted without DNA and even without bodies. DNA is fairly new. What did these people want, a video tape? If they can believe that George Anthony had a hand in it, they can believe that space aliens did it or any kooky story, cause that is what the George story is.<br /><br />I wonder what will become of Casey. I would not be surprised if some wealthy eccentric comes in and swoops Casey into a plush condo out of state, but like any 25-yr-old (I was once one), she would not be able to be "sequestered", to sit still, to stay out of sight. But who would want to be seen with her? It is gonna be interesting. <br /><br />I saw on CNN and LA Times today that the phony Rockefeller has been returned to LA for the murder of the long-ago landlord, so get ready!!<br />-Wes J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-2735648173802979792011-07-07T15:37:42.982-07:002011-07-07T15:37:42.982-07:00Caylee's Law Petition has gone viral:
http://...Caylee's Law Petition has gone viral:<br /><br />http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110707/NEWS/110707046/1005/RSS04Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-26059020395087021722011-07-07T15:02:55.674-07:002011-07-07T15:02:55.674-07:00Breaking news...reportedly, lightening just struck...Breaking news...reportedly, lightening just struck a tree near where Caylee's remains were found!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-2007097290432442102011-07-07T14:55:42.814-07:002011-07-07T14:55:42.814-07:00There are none so Blind as those who will not see!...There are none so Blind as those who will not see!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-22878731512552044162011-07-07T14:34:42.986-07:002011-07-07T14:34:42.986-07:00Sprocket, unfortunately for this country, this goe...Sprocket, unfortunately for this country, this goes WAY BEYOND and is much bigger than the CSI effect. The real issue is as old as this country, it's the original sin of this country. We seem to be going back to the future, we've actually NOT come a long way!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-31798879124260624162011-07-07T14:20:56.772-07:002011-07-07T14:20:56.772-07:00Sprocket,
Thank you very much for the article!
I...Sprocket,<br /><br />Thank you very much for the article!<br /><br />I just rea the "eyes for lies" article and boy oh boy! When I heard the alternate #14 talking about he thought GA was somewhat involved, I just told my hubby "what's wrong with this guy"? Then now we have 2 jurors saying there was no evidence to prove I wonder if we were watching the same trial. These jurors didn't bother to follow HHJP's instructions.<br /><br />First of all, Krystal Holloway/River Cruz's statements about "accident that snowballed out of control" was "not" evidence of drowning. Her statements if were to be considered should be if she had or had not an affair with GA. <br /><br />Where in this trial the defense proved an accidental death? No sexual abuse either.<br /><br />Are these jurors plain and simple lazy? What the heck?<br /><br />Not even child abuse? They said KC was a good mother because of what? Caylee slept in the same bed as RM one night. Where did these people come with this idea of a good mother?<br /><br />These people should be ashamed of themselves.<br /><br />What about the 2 dogs that hit the trunk of the car, was there a dog conspiracy too? <br /><br />I am so de aster that these people wanted to go home. Shame on them! <br /><br />A sociopath will be out in the streets and it's their own decision. <br /><br />Where is their common sense?<br />Sigh.FRGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-52593949828920301192011-07-07T14:12:22.204-07:002011-07-07T14:12:22.204-07:00It will be interesting to learn WHO convinced the ...It will be interesting to learn WHO convinced the other jurors to go the NOT guilty route.<br /><br />After this travesty, we know how sociopaths work, don't we!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-22652542936972238632011-07-07T14:07:44.285-07:002011-07-07T14:07:44.285-07:00"Why wasn't there even ONE person in the ..."Why wasn't there even ONE person in the room who was able to see the "obvious"? "<br /><br />Excellent question!<br /><br />That's why the current national political environment together with the location in FL from where the jurors came AND the players (specifically the Judge) in the case should be closely scrutinized!<br /><br />With those ingredients, the result is NO JUSTICE for the victim! These jurors simply used this case as a public platform to make a political statement.<br /><br />As we see, they are hard pressed to explain away their irrational verdict because there is no rational reason for their verdict in the face of all the hard evidence that was presented in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-28427890517616262192011-07-07T14:00:04.936-07:002011-07-07T14:00:04.936-07:00Anon @ 1:35pm
I don't know that it specifical...Anon @ 1:35pm<br /><br />I don't know that it specifically was "Nancy Grace" that swayed the public. There are many who listen to the evening news and don't listen to Nancy Grace.<br /><br />The juror did state that at one point, there were six for acquittal and six for manslaughter. So, at one point, there were jurors who thought she was guilty of manslaughter.<br /><br />For the average person, it was clear that Caylee died from duct tape over her mouth, placed there by her mother. Unfortunately, these 12 jurors didn't see the evidence that way.Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-38099101861389202632011-07-07T13:35:14.785-07:002011-07-07T13:35:14.785-07:00Did the CSI effect sway this jury? It's possib...Did the CSI effect sway this jury? It's possible<br /><br />Did the Nancy Grace effect sway the public? Yes<br /><br />Does the general public struggle with the Burden of Proof tenet? YES<br /><br />What are the odds of somewhat randomly selecting 12 unintelligent illogical spineless people from a Florida county? Why wasn't there even ONE person in the room who was able to see the "obvious"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com