tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post5997320237568799127..comments2024-02-24T18:44:39.324-08:00Comments on Trials & Tribulations: Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Verdict Watch Day 2Sprockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-73744692243370025132011-07-07T21:34:22.305-07:002011-07-07T21:34:22.305-07:00I will remind everyone of T&T's comment po...I will remind everyone of T&T's comment policy that is listed on the right side of the blog, underneath the "contact us" link.<br /><br />Here is what it says:<br /><br /><b>COMMENT POLICY</b><br />All comments are moderated. T&T is not obligated to publish your comment. All we ask is that you be respectful.Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-54122484775351937252011-07-07T12:58:29.228-07:002011-07-07T12:58:29.228-07:00I don't know what went on in that jury room, b...I don't know what went on in that jury room, but I wish they would have studied the evidence, putting aside the slant spoken by the lawyers (both sides). To truly evaluate what happened, the facts have to be analyzed with independent, open minds. Had they done that, just maybe any reasonable doubt they were feeling might have disappeared. And if the doubt remained, the rest of us might have have felt they at least tried instead of hastily running home. That's what bothers me the most. Now it's time to turn attention to what can be controlled, and for me, that means no more Casey Anthony in my home, no more NG Bombshells and the like. Thanks to T&T for the good work and straight reporting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-37762312953553876872011-07-07T12:38:33.218-07:002011-07-07T12:38:33.218-07:00I love what you just said Ritanita, you are so rig...I love what you just said Ritanita, you are so right. <br /><br /><br /> The complicated jury instruction given by Judge Perry seemed endless. When he finished, he clunk together a big stack of papers. Could even one of them understand it all? I doubt it. <br /><br />I was utterly baffled by all of it............... furthermore I certainly did not understand ''the legal language'' is there an interpreter that explains if they ask?<br /><br />You were not biased in your reporting Ritanita, You were fair I felt, and did a beautiful job and I personally want to thank you. <br /><br />Casey will get caught up in another game, sociopaths are not curable, and I'm willing to bet my soul she will end her days in a prison somewhere... someday.... [ That is if the people of Orlando don't get her 1st. ]<br /><br />How can one woman, on earth for only 25 years, do so much destruction, cause so much pain, and waste so much money............... even the pornographer didn't think she was worth a cameo. Amen to that. <br /><br />Thank You Ritanita and Sprocketcaroleighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05842951740374648453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-41790628697435728002011-07-07T12:15:00.036-07:002011-07-07T12:15:00.036-07:00I went away for a day to clear my mind and Sprocke...I went away for a day to clear my mind and Sprocket is posting the verdict hearing from today. Thanks, so much Sprocket!<br /><br />I see a lot of jury bashing here. I wish I knew what they thought, but only hearing from one or two made me wonder if they understood all the work that goes into deliberations, if they fully read through those complicated jury instructions and read them well. Whatever the case, they made their decision and, as I've said before, they have to live with it. So will we.<br /><br />Personally, I hope that the "hating" will stop and people will just accept the fact that the trial is over and done with. Anger will not accomplish anything and it will do more harm than good.<br /><br />I plan on taking a break for a while from the whole situation, because, instead of being a Trial, the aftermath is purely a Tribulation we will all have to suffer through. There is no honor to Caylee's memory by the public brouhaha. I agree with what Jeff Ashton said yesterday. We would best honor her by doing something for other children in trouble. <br /><br />I could read the motions and watch the hearings and tell you my interpretations. I could follow the trial for those who didn't have the time to watch for themselves.<br /><br />Was I biased? I tried hard not to be, but as time went on, I could clearly see where the evidence was leading. However, nothing I could say would tell you what the verdict would be. I never assumed Casey would be found guilty. You can never tell what a jury will see and understand. <br /><br />When I entitled the article, No Justice For Caylee, it meant more that we will never see another person go on trial for her death. But her memory will be carried with each of us.ritanitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798894468241676294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-10318990327486545452011-07-07T10:43:11.234-07:002011-07-07T10:43:11.234-07:00For those who have not seen it, this link with som...For those who have not seen it, this link with some interesting info about Juror #3 was shared by a poster on Calls for Justice blogsite:<br /><br />http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1410423Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-74092741509859991222011-07-07T10:13:15.986-07:002011-07-07T10:13:15.986-07:00Baez was a court jester rather than an officer of ...Baez was a court jester rather than an officer of the court. The man is seriously incompetent. smh<br /><br />Combine that with the jury from hell and you get total devastation of the justice system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-62601087848645652102011-07-07T09:57:34.126-07:002011-07-07T09:57:34.126-07:00Casey Anthony is a danger to society. The jury is...Casey Anthony is a danger to society. The jury is totally responsible for this result to let her loose on society. God help us!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-89699233369368599592011-07-07T08:58:40.972-07:002011-07-07T08:58:40.972-07:00Judge Perry was being jerked around by the defense...Judge Perry was being jerked around by the defense team probably at the enjoyment of this jury. But despite it all, he did a great job in conducting his court in an impartial, professional and exemplary manner.<br /><br />The prosecution team did a phenomenal job for the State of Florida on behalf of Caylee Marie Anthony. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts!<br /><br />On behalf of humanity, we apologize for the gross misdeed and miscarriage of justice at the hands of the jury in this ase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-6545884239727429832011-07-07T07:57:30.647-07:002011-07-07T07:57:30.647-07:00To Judge Perry and the prosecution team on behalf ...To Judge Perry and the prosecution team on behalf of the People of the State of Florida:<br /><br />THANK YOU you from the bottom of our hearts for your untiring dedication and phenomenal job in seeking justice for Caylee Marie Anthony! We know you will sleep well at night.<br /><br />On behalf of humanity, we deeply apologize for the gross misdeed and miscarriage of justice at the hands of the self-serving jury in this case!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-82227539792494333512011-07-07T07:32:31.720-07:002011-07-07T07:32:31.720-07:00It's a truly sad day in America to listen to J...It's a truly sad day in America to listen to Juror #3. This is someone who is supposed to be learning to be a nurse?! God forbid! Her reasons are IRRATIONAL in light of the ALL the evidence pointing to GUILTY -- there was NO note taking, NO applying their intelligence, NOTHING even close to reasonable time spent in discussing the evidence in the case. A total FAILURE and PERVERSION OF JUSTICE! Whenever something reeks of such IRRATIONAL reasoning, this leaves us to wonder as to the REAL reason behind their verdict.<br /><br />Consider that these jurors came from another part of the state, their backgrounds, who the judge is, and there was talk about the judge being in favor of the prosecution. So, they seize this opportunity to make a statement in the current national political environment and sock it to the judge?! Forget about doing what's lawful, they used this opportunity to further their own personal prejudices! Folks, look there for the TRUTH about what really happened in this case! <br /><br />We all know the mountain of evidence that was presented pointing to guilty. Watch and listen to the irrational reasoning coming out of the mouths of the jurors as they struggle to make sense of their totally nonsensical verdict! There is absolutely NO justification or rational reason for this verdict, especially when they were also given the choice of manslaughter! The system was perverted for irrational personal reasons!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-37488065701684210302011-07-07T07:21:53.185-07:002011-07-07T07:21:53.185-07:00Thank you Judge Perry . . . you did the best you c...Thank you Judge Perry . . . you did the best you could under the circumstances.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354501234951794642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-19381957791450511312011-07-07T07:05:58.726-07:002011-07-07T07:05:58.726-07:00Juror #3's irrational reasoning PROVES that th...Juror #3's irrational reasoning PROVES that they based their verdict on other things that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the case! They need to do some soul searching as they have allowed a coldblooded murderer to go FREE to roam the streets and be a continuing jeopardy to society!<br /><br />Scumbaez remains as inept as ever!<br /><br />There was MORE than ample evidence in this case. Some cases don't even have a body, yet the accused is found guilty!<br /><br />Due to the their own long-standing, deep-rooted personal issues, this jury consisting of out-of-towners managed to successfully pervert the jury system!<br /><br />Where is the justice for Caylee Marie Anthony?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-55652706623115990432011-07-07T07:01:54.476-07:002011-07-07T07:01:54.476-07:00Is Clint House an imaginary friend or a real one? ...Is Clint House an imaginary friend or a real one? Caylee's law would be awesome! I hope it will pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-73661097746051028822011-07-07T05:36:33.821-07:002011-07-07T05:36:33.821-07:00Caroline . . . wonderful comments. I so appreciat...Caroline . . . wonderful comments. I so appreciate your perspective of our legal system as well as the recounting of the Geneva man. Merci mon amis.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16354501234951794642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-69449137633495800842011-07-07T03:40:35.303-07:002011-07-07T03:40:35.303-07:00Based on what juror #3 has said, she and possibly ...Based on what juror #3 has said, she and possibly the other jurors were not convinced by the kitchen sink defense so Baez shouldn't be upping his rates just yet. I listened to the whole interview with Terry Moran? from ABC and thought she articulated very well how she arrived at the decision.<br /><br />I'm glad I took the time to hear the interview rather than go by Nancy Grace and her minion's criminal mischaracterization of what the woman said. In the one or two minutes before her nonstop "tot mom" reference had me diving for the remote, she and her guests made it sound like the juror wanted to change her vote after realizing the sh&t storm stirred up by the verdict. Juror #3 said nothing of the sort. The NG panel has done a disservice to their viewers by trying to twist her comment that "not guilty does not mean innocent" to fit their narrative. Juror #3 was very clear on her views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-75943899984074041642011-07-06T19:32:17.036-07:002011-07-06T19:32:17.036-07:00Did any of you hear about Caylee's law? It'...Did any of you hear about Caylee's law? It's a good idea. If a parent doesn't report a missing child within 48 hours they can be charged with a felony. I think that's how it goes...there must be accountability (and Casey's former friend Clint House even said that, and he believes she is guilty and no justice was served for Caylee).Norahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14418551036491989541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-29423943238883552132011-07-06T17:29:01.000-07:002011-07-06T17:29:01.000-07:00The murderer is set to walk free, free to enjoy th...The murderer is set to walk free, free to enjoy the "beautiful life," whatever it ends up to be in reality.<br /><br />Will the State proceed with prosecuting Cindy and George for perjury?<br /><br />Will ANYONE suffer any consequences for the coldhearted killing of a defenseless toddler?<br /><br />With all the movie and book deals lined up to earn the various parties millions of dollars, is this the message we're sending to the world: Crime really pays in America!?<br /><br />In light of all the recent unprecendented natural disasters occuring across the country, it's time for us to pause and do some deep soul searching before it's too late!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-24288897416530126902011-07-06T17:12:23.112-07:002011-07-06T17:12:23.112-07:00Do the research and you will find cases where some...Do the research and you will find cases where some didn't even have a body, and the accused is currently on death row!<br /><br />There was more than ample evidence in this case for first degree murder had the JURY done their lawful job. End of discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-50687409477532893592011-07-06T16:56:07.550-07:002011-07-06T16:56:07.550-07:00Dear Anon at July 6, 2011 8:37 AM:
An alternate j...Dear Anon at July 6, 2011 8:37 AM:<br /><br />An alternate juror was interviewed on HNN cable and he 1. agreed with the jury's verdict and 2. sounded like he was an articulate and reasonable human being.<br /><br />In addition, this was a very difficult, high pressure case to defend, and personal feelings about Mr. Baez aside, the fact that he could obtain a defense verdict under these circumstances by definition proves that he is not incompetent.<br /><br />That does not mean that Baez is a good human being or that his client is in fact innocent. It does mean that he did a heck of a job defending his client. Instead of getting the needle or life in prison she will go free.<br /><br />You cannot do better than that in a death case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-28494051442427607582011-07-06T15:30:30.855-07:002011-07-06T15:30:30.855-07:00Trying to understand the verdict - part 3
Also, a...Trying to understand the verdict - part 3<br /><br />Also, at the beginning of the trial, I was very frustrated by the fact that they did not explain how Casey was able to maintain her lies about her job. Honestly , I really wanted to know how she was able to go shopping , use a credit card, etc...without a job. I immediately decided to pack up and move to the USA. Then I looked it up on the internet, and found out that she was stealing her family, and even from Amy ... I unpacked. And thought that that was not meant to last , she would have been caught rather quickly, and she certainly knew it. "Timer 55" : Casey knew that Bella Vita wouldn't last .....So what was it ? Was she acting out of shock, or was she planning on killing her parents as well ?<br /><br />So the state proved that Casey was a self centered sociopath liar, that she knew from day one where Caylee was and what had happened to her, that there was a cover up, and Caysee knew about the cover up. The point is in this case, if you can't prove how Caylee died, you can't prove there was a murder. I'm not familiar enough with the law, so I don't know if there are other charges that could have applied to this case. The charges in the indictment were about murder, manslaughter, and child abuse, that was not proven beyond reasonable doubt. It's impossible to rule out an " accident that snowballed out of control" based on what was shown at the trial.<br />I am very disappointed, but if she had been convicted, I would not have felt comfortable with it either.<br /><br />It's a sad situation, and I'm sure the prosecution did everything they could. Maybe it's the perfect murder that can not be proven, maybe there was no murder.<br /><br />One other thing I thought is that here, in France, we don't have the 5th amandment. If you are on trial, you will be asked to explain what happened. If you don't want to, no one can force you, but it will be held against you. I am in no way critising the 5th amendment, but I think that in this particular case, if it happened here, and she refused to answer questions, she would probably be convicted because it's obvious she knows, and won't talk. Just another way of seeing things. <br /><br />Out of respect for Caylee, I hope that no one will ever pay one cent, directly or indirectly, to Casey to watch a movie or buy a book about her story. And maybe it's time to think about a law about not reporting a missing child, and concealing someone's death.Carolinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-45520158742800127612011-07-06T15:28:22.261-07:002011-07-06T15:28:22.261-07:00Trying to understand the verdict - part 2
One det...Trying to understand the verdict - part 2<br /><br />One detail struck me in one of the videos of Casey shopping : Casey bought white sunglasses. A witness (I think it was George ) had previously described Caylee's white sunglasses. So this detail struck me, I realised, Ok , at this point, Casey knows that Caylee has passed, she wants something that would link her to her daughter. <br /><br />Her lies and her imaginary life also reminded me of a famous French case : a man who also had an imaginary job at the WHO in Geneva, pretetended to work there during 18 years, when he was actually spending his days wandering around Geneva, and came back home at night. His whole family and his friends believed him during 18 years. An when the truth was about to be found out, he methodically , coldly, killed everyone in his family : his parents, his wife, his children. According to a psychiatrist, not because he didn't love them, he did in his own way, but because the truth would be unbearable, if they, the people he most "loved", knew it.<br /><br />Premeditation also fell apart : Linda Drane Burdick insisted that Casey visited 84 times a website about chloroform. Then Baez rather easily showed that there was a problem with the software used to search the Anthony hard drive, and it was actually Myspace that was visited 84 times. The suspicious web searches happened around the time when Ricardo Morales put up a photo mentioning chloroform on his myspace. So ??? Was Casey planning on murdering Caylee or just trying to find out more info on chloroform because of that picture, and fearing it could be used on her during her nights partying out, searched info on self defense ?<br /><br />Same thing happened with the "shockingly high levels" of chloroform found in the trunk of the car. This was said by one expert only , Dr Vass, who then explained that the method he used didn't allow him to quantify the chloroform. All the other experts spoke of traces of chloroform, explaining it didn't mean much, since chloroform is very common in housold products, decomposition, and volatile...<br /><br />Then the duct tape. There is a problem with the duct tape : where was it originally ? It is clear that Caylee's body was moved, at least by animals. Then by water. So where was the duct tape originally ? The prosecution desperately wanted to show that it was on Caylee's mouth and nose. Jeff Ashton said in his closing arguments that the duct tape was the reason why the skull and the lower jaw were still connected. I found that very troubling, so I went back to the testimonies, and watched them again. The experts first answers about what kept the jaw and skull together, were the matted hair and the roots. So where was this duct tape originally ? Before the verdict, I thought they could have been on the bag, as the defense suggested. After the verdict, I suddenly thought that the pieces of duct tape were too short to be used on the bags, it made no sense to place them there. If they were not on the bags, then where were they ? On the blanket ? On the laundry bag ? On Caylee ? To tie her hands ? On her mouth and nose ? Over her eyes ? Before or after her death ? We'll never know. <br /><br />I also found the autopsy report strange , how can you conclude it was a homicide when you don't know the cause of death ? Ok, Caylee was almost 3, and had no known health problem. So I would have understood the ruling out of suicide and natural death. But how can you rule out an accident based on the fact that there was a cover up ?? I was not convinced at all by Dr G's explanations.Carolinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-61965666074011912282011-07-06T15:21:58.935-07:002011-07-06T15:21:58.935-07:00Trying to explain the verdict : part 1
Just like ...Trying to explain the verdict : part 1<br /><br />Just like most people here, I am sad about the outcome of this case. But I can't say that I was surprised. In a way , I can understand what the jurors did yesterday.<br /><br />I am French, and as my English will show (I apologise, by the way) live in France. We have not heard about Casey Anthony here. We have never heard of Caylee. A few weeks ago, an American friend posted a link on Facebook to watch the trial live. It was not intended for me, but since I heve always wanted to watch a trial from gavel to gavel, I thought this one would be a good occasion, since I didn't know anything about the case. I could watch it almost like a juror, and see if I would reach the same verdict.<br /><br />After the closing arguments, after hearing and reading Judge Perry's instructions, very very very reluctantly, I realised that it would have to be not guilty for counts 1 to 3. <br />Very reluctantly because Casey's behavior is unacceptable, absolutely outrageous. You don't lie about somebody's death, you don't try to hide it, you don't dump the body in the woods. And ironically, it was her lies and sociopath personality that got Casey out of this, when she should have been punished for those lies and sociopath behavior.<br /><br />I hope the jurors will speak soon. I honestly think that reasonable doubt was everywhere , murder has not been proven. All the evidence that has been shown could point to murder or to an accident and a cover up.<br /><br />The state has proven she was a liar, a pathological liar. She lied way before anything happened to Caylee. So she lied after also. If it was an accident, would she have told the truth at that time ? I don't think so.<br /><br />Then you can hear her say in the jail tape that she didn't want to talk, because she felt "they" were building a case against her, and that "they" were twisting everything she said. Is she telling the truth now ? Honestly who would believe her ? I would not. I have no idea what happened to Caylee, and we will never know. <br /><br />And then came the 7 months pregnant Casey picture ... how on earth can George and Cindy say they were not sure that Casey was pregnant ??? This is just .... Wow. Makes you wonder about this family. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...<br /><br />Then there was the motive : what was her motive to kill her daughter ? A lot of people are shocked to hear the alternate juror refer to Casey as "a good mother". But we did hear most of Casey's friends and family speak of an amazing loving relationship between Casey and Caylee. So yes , I think it was true, there was a strong bond between them. After all, they were spending most of their days together when everybody thought Casey was working.<br /><br />Maybe you remember a funny moment during the trial, when Frank George tried to introduce a text message / instant messaging correspondance between Casey and Tony I think. It was funny because Judge Perry started to read the conversation out loud, in a very Judge Perry tone, and the conversation he was reading was a little bit ... hot. Well Judge Perry eventually rejected most part, if not all the evidence, that Frank George wanted to use it to show a motive : he probably wanted to show that Caylee was becoming a problem between Casey and her then boyfriend. So the jurors never heard that.../....Carolinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-58470296907050751642011-07-06T12:23:28.857-07:002011-07-06T12:23:28.857-07:00Reported today from localOrlando tv news........Ca...Reported today from localOrlando tv news........Casey, overheard in jail, wants to have another child.<br />Just so everyone knows!sharinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-66201117679570592672011-07-06T10:43:12.295-07:002011-07-06T10:43:12.295-07:00Casey Anthony has spent 3 years in jail. One for ...Casey Anthony has spent 3 years in jail. One for each year of Caylee's life. While I do believe she was involved in Caylee's death, I was never quite convinced she murdered her and I'm a very well read, reasonable, intelligent person. If Caylee's body had been found a month after going missing, I'm sure there would have been a different scenario. Given the lack of hard forensic evidence (smells aside): the prosecution did an admirable job but I never felt this was a death penalty case from the get-go. Doubt Casey will enjoy riches and fame - but rather infamy and scorn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-85769934054165771742011-07-06T08:37:02.105-07:002011-07-06T08:37:02.105-07:00We the people have the last word -- we will NOT su...We the people have the last word -- we will NOT support anything that's about Baez or Casey. They will be each other's undoing sooner or later...KARMA.<br /><br />The verdict in this case had nothing to do with Baez -- he's as inept as ever. It had to do with something untoward within the jury. Why won't they speak?<br /><br />The People of Florida are proud of the stellar case presented by prosecution on behalf of Caylee Marie Anthony.<br /><br />May Caylee rest in peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com