tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post9208510645187169305..comments2024-02-24T18:44:39.324-08:00Comments on Trials & Tribulations: Dr. Conrad Murray Prelim: Day 1, Part 1Sprockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-15479185397192931352011-01-13T09:03:42.054-08:002011-01-13T09:03:42.054-08:00Not KZ, but I will try to answer.
Understand, we ...Not KZ, but I will try to answer.<br /><br />Understand, we have not heard the entire interview Dr. Murray had with detectives. We've only heard a summary.<br /><br />We don't know if questions like these were asked by police.<br /><br />By Dr. Murray's own timeline with detectives as to what he did and when, there is a discrepancy of almost an hour.<br /><br />Dr. Murray states he went to the bathroom "for about 2 minutes" around 11 am.<br /><br />The phone call with Sade Anding at 11:51 am, where she testified that after about 5 minutes, she realized that Dr. Murray wasn't there/listening to her. She heard some comotion in the background and a sigh, as if the phone might have been in a pocket.<br /><br />What happened during that hour? Evidence shows Dr. Murray was receiving and sending E-mails and on the phone. <br /><br />We don't know specifically where Murray was in Jackson's mansion during that hour.Sprockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837416113512618694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-41561556599075699352011-01-13T08:48:09.845-08:002011-01-13T08:48:09.845-08:00I realize it's a bit late to comment in this a...I realize it's a bit late to comment in this area but in rereading testimony, etc and KZ's professional opinion, how would KZ, in describing MJ as dead for hours, and being infused while dead, how does that account for his facial expression being missed by Dr. Murray? I don't fully understand the sequence of events/ timeline, so I may be totally misunderstanding here...or, as KZ's comment was written early in the testimony, maybe something has changed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-44649899477244284622011-01-07T01:09:44.561-08:002011-01-07T01:09:44.561-08:00@ KZ - You've answered something I've been...@ KZ - You've answered something I've been wondering about and asking questions about since June '09. Wish I could contact you?<br /><br />Thanks T&T for a great blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-21975490097149501062011-01-05T09:08:37.160-08:002011-01-05T09:08:37.160-08:00Very interesting chain of events described. I'...Very interesting chain of events described. I'm an anesthetist, so I'd like to comment on the medical chain of events as you have reported them. It's clear to me that MJ was "quite" dead for several HOURS before Murray even noticed he wasn't breathing. If MJ's periphery was "cool" to the touch at 12:25 when paramedics arrived, assuming an ambient temperature of at least 72 degrees in the room, and the body on an insulated bed, clothed, possibly with bed covers over him, it would have taken several hours of cooling for the periphery of the body to feel "cool" to another human's touch. If the body periphery skin temp was even 90+ degrees, it's likely he could have been dead since at least 9 a.m. or earlier. No mention yet of rigor, which usually begins around 4 hours PM. Frankly, I don't doubt that Murray claims to have given him more meds at 10 am-- he simply failed to recognize that his patient was DEAD. A fairly critical error for any health care professional. <br /><br />MJ kept getting propofol infused into his dead body, which was not metabolized or circulated by his non-beating heart. Hence the sky-high blood levels at post. Depends on what rate the infusion was at when he died how much more accumulated. Murray may well have bumped his IV with another 25mg at 10 am-- and I agree that THAT 25mg wasn't what killed his patient! Murray didn't have the skills of any ICU nurse or any first- week- in- the- OR anesthesia student. THAT is what killed his patient. <br /><br />Murray was "nursing" the meds and IV's-- not monitoring and assessing his patient, which can lead to dead patients in hospitals, as well as outside of hospitals. And without a cardiac monitor displaying rhythm and respiratory impedence (hello, you're a CARDIOLOGIST, Murray!), end tidal CO2, or a pulse oximeter, or a stethoscope, he was relying on his completely untrained, and nonexistent assessment skills to detect apnea and lack of a pulse in his patient. And no advanced airway management was ever attempted. I doubt very much that Murray even knows how to position someone's head or jaw to open an airway or assist inadequate respirations, let alone competently use an ambu bag or intubate.<br /><br />That MJ's corpse received 30 minutes of ACLS at the scene with documented asystole (after badly attempted bystander basic CPR), and another 73 min of ACLS at the hospital ER with documented asystole, far, far exceeds what any person would receive who was not known to be severely hypothermic. I cannot imagine what the staff was thinking during that code. <br /><br />And while I agree that it was egregious and incompetent that Murray did not mention the propofol to any of the legitimate medical providers, it would not have made one bit of difference if they had known, as there is no "reversal" agent for propofol. All that info would have done is persuade them that MJ was indeed quite dead, and they would have called the code even sooner.<br /><br />Arrogance, incompetence, greed, and narcissism, plus the all important M.D. after Murray's name, killed his patient. No one forced him to give anything to MJ, who was an addict looking for a source. And MJ wanted propofol not only because it's a great anesthetic, but precisely because it is not a narcotic, and doesn't show up in drug tests. Clean drug tests may have been a condition of his insurance contract for his music tour, sometimes required by producers. <br /> <br />Thanks for the opportunity to comment here; my second comment, and I hope I wasn't out of line with a longish post! Murray makes me furious, as you can see!KZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-18147301302954892832011-01-05T07:58:13.871-08:002011-01-05T07:58:13.871-08:00I wasn't aware that Dr. Murray never conveyed ...I wasn't aware that Dr. Murray never conveyed to any other medical personnel about the propofol. Does sound like the defense will not be able to over come these facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-54560263387684902082011-01-05T07:21:01.746-08:002011-01-05T07:21:01.746-08:00Hi, this really is a great account of the start of...Hi, this really is a great account of the start of yesterday's prelim... PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEASE if you can stick up the rest of your notes from the day and will you be in court again today and so on?<br /><br />I'll be watching your awesome blog!MartyConhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05677061017472526892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6757696342634699253.post-53518114438727537792011-01-05T07:01:43.322-08:002011-01-05T07:01:43.322-08:00Thanks for the reporting. It must feel good to be...Thanks for the reporting. It must feel good to be back in court again!ritanitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798894468241676294noreply@blogger.com