Good morning everyone! I totaled up the number of hours this morning and according to my calculations, the jury deliberated 5 hours and 2 minutes yesterday. Understand that part of that time is the Judge's inquiry and admonishment. We were given no times for that start and stop. By my clock, that would put the total time at 13 hours and 19 minutes. I will try to get a confirmation on that time this morning with the PIO.
I'll check in with everyone when I get to court. I will most likely not blog live during the reading of the jury's question, but revert to handwritten notes and transcribe them after. It will be busy down at the courthouse this morning. Howard K. Stern and the other doctor are due to be arraigned this morning.
9:14 am: Hi everyone. I'm in the back row. The jury filed in at this time and right now Spector, Donte and Jennifer Barringer just entered.
9:16 am: BUZZ! The jury just started deliberating.
9:17 am: Rachelle Short just entered 106 and sat beside Spector.
9:18 am: Doron Weinberg just entered and he sat in the first row by Rachelle. They are waiting for the prior hearing to clear out of the table area.
9:19 am: Spector's bodyguard is standing in the antechamber area. Sherri and Linda from San Diego are here. A reporter I've seen before but don't know their name and Lindy from CNN is here. I expect all the press I do know are at Howard K. Stern's arraignment.
9:20 am: Just a reminder, I will not be adding new addresses to the Verdict Watch Request E-mail until tonight.
9:21 am: Weinberg just finished talkng to Spector, Rachelle and Donte. I could hear him talking but not specifically what he said. Weinberg just handed an envelope to Rachelle.
9:25 am: Alan Jackson just entered 106 with Joshua. A reporter I've never seen before has entered. It looks like Jackson and Joshua is going over something with Cindy, the court reporter.
9:27 am: Vania Stuelp from the PIO department just entered. She said the Stern hearing has not even started yet. She tells us there are several attorney's in chambers in with the Judge at the Stern hearing.
9:29 am: Katie and Lisa enter a moment ago, and now Truc Do is here. A producer for a pilot for the networks, a drama is here. I met her back in December.
9:30 am: The bailiff asks everyone to ensure their cell phones are off. Jackson, Truc Do, and Cindy are still going over what looks like a transcript. They are done now.
Beth Karas is at the Stern arraignment but has told me that when she is off with her network, she is going to stop by 106.
Fidler on the bench. Request for readback testimony. The attorney's are satisfied with the transcript with the court reporter. "Let's get the jurors in here," Fidler says.
9:36 am: The alternates enter from 107.
9:36 am: The jurors enter 106.
"The jurors have requested that certain testimony of Jamie Lintemoot be readback. The attorney's think they have identified the specific testimony." If there is anything else, please let us know.
They start with the beginning of her testimony about using a UV light.
Talking about her collecting the white material off the dress. Now the GSR kit test.
It's Cindy, the court reporter, who is reading back the testimony. Now how she collected the swabs for blood from the left and right hands. Now talking about the broken nail.
She collected one swab from the back of the right wrist. "Collected from the back side of the wrist. ... I saw mist-like stains..."
Now talking about the tape lift.
Swabs and slides from the oral cavity, for sexual activity kit.
Collected a piece of hair, dark fiber from the breast area; collected a lipstick from under the decedents left breast.
She also collected the purse.
Now talking about collecting the clothing at the coroner's office.
Talking about how she collected the items, they were put on white butcher paper and left to dry overnight, then individually packaged for later analysis.
Now talking about the purse, shoes, dress, jacket that were collected; identifying them from images on the screen from the transcript.
She collected a hair kit. Various hairs from the body, head, body, eyelash hairs. Collected a pubic hair kit.
Now talking about collecting the sexual assault kit. Swab from right inner upper arm. Breast swabs and genital area swabs.
Swabs are then dried out and packaged.
She collected a fingernail kit; scrapings.
Had the coroner collect a damaged nail kit. She did not analyze any of these items.
Fidler: "Foreperson, Juror #1, does this (answer the question for the readback)?" She nods or says yes. The jury re enters the jury room at 9:50 am.
Weinberg says to a reporter, "Was that revealing?" The reporter introduces herself to Weinberg. Weinberg is still talking to the reporter. The Spector's left a moment before. And we are now back to an empty courtroom except for the few of us in the gallery.
Answering a comment. I don't know any of the personal stats of the jury. I made a conscious decision not to get a copy of their juror questionnaires.
Allan Parachini comes in to speak to his staff member. The Stern arraignment was postponed until May 13th. Both defendants pled not guilty.
10:04 am: I don't know what to make of this readback. I did not watch the jury, I was trying type and not make any spelling errors. Others in the gallery were watching the jury and have opinions about it but since I did not watch the jury, I watched my screen to type, I don't know.
10:10 am: Just to clarify for everyone. This was a readback of Jamie Lintemoot's DIRECT testimony presented by Truc Do. It only covered what she collected on Lana Clarkson's body at the scene and at the coroner's office.
10:16 am: I don't have an opinion on the readback at this point. I think it is premature to speculate as to what part of the testimony they were looking for. The courtroom gallery is very quiet. There are just a few people here.
10:20 am: I need to add that in the readback, in part of the transcript Lintemoot did mention about the other swabs she took of possible blood on the left hand, but that part of the readback went by so quickly I didn't catch it.
10:25 am: Answering a comment. The make-up of the jury appears to be a range of ages. There appear to be those of Caucasian, Asian and Hispanic descent. The jurors are 6/6. The alternates are four women and 1 man.
10:48 am: Answering a comment. I didn't notice the jury dressed any different. There is no guarantee that this jury will speak to the press, if/when a "conclusion" is reached. (That was the word Weinberg used with one of the reporters when they asked him about speaking after a verdict is reached. Last trial, only three jurors met with the press.
10:53 am: Answering a comment. From my opinion of direct and cross of testimony, I believe that spatter on the back of Lana Clarkson's WRISTS proves there is not a single way she could have been holding the weapon and gotten that spatter on the back of her wrists. A few defense experts speculated different ways the weapon could have been held and even Weinberg held the gun in an interesting way at one point. However, it is my opinion from listening to all the testimony that not one of these examples would explain how spatter got on the back of the wrists if Lana Clarkson was holding the weapon. In my opinion, spatter on the back of the wrists is inconsistent with Lana Clarkson holding the weapon.
10:58 am: Answering a comment. Jamie Lintemoot testified on the stand. As part of cross-examination of several witnesses, her testimony from the first trial, where she demonstrated with her hands and indicated where the mist-like blood spatter was on the wrists.
11:00 am: A reporter enters and asks the PIO if it would be possible to see the note the jurors sent. BUZZ! The juror's stopped deliberating. The PIO staff is going to make copies of the note.
11:07 am: The PIO shows us a copy of the note the jurors sent. Here is what it reads:
Direct testimony of Jaime Lintemoot on 12/3/08 Regarding all items bagged/collected.
11:12 am: BUZZ! They've started deliberating again.
11:16 am: Answering a comment. The juror who wore the music and comic T-shirts was Juror #5. He was released from his jury service due to financial hardship and replaced with one of the alternates.
11:24 am: Dr. Carroll Adams dropped in to say hello. They are in jury selection in 107 (where he usually hangs out) and there's not enough room yet for him to have a seat, so he stopped in here to chat and say hi. The latest update on the pending Cameron Brown trial is, there is the current case on Judge Pastor's docket and then the Brown case will be next up after that case concludes. That case will take approximately 2 months.
11:28 am: Answering a comment. The piece of broken acrylic nail was never found. It was speculated during the first trial that Dr. Henry Lee found it (then either lost it or stole it) but in the special hearing outside the presence of the jury, it was never officially identified what it was, that he found/collected. The coroner excised the remaining broken thumbnail from Lana Clarkson's hand and preserved it.
11:42: The bailiff takes out of the jury room the cart that the catered food is brought into 106 on.
Some personal good news here. Mr. Sprocket passed the business law part of his exams today! That hard part is over. He has one more exam in the afternoon, on his specific field. He studied quite hard for this test for the past three months.
11:51 am: The caterer enters and we are kicked out.
12:14 pm: I'm eating my lunch now. As a personal request, please understand that I'm a lousy typist with the laptop and external mouse balanced on my lap and even worse with correct grammar/punctuation. Sedonia Sunset is my editor after the fact. She has been painstakingly editing my entries and I'm about 3 weeks behind on getting those entries corrected. I hope y'all will be patient with me in that regard trying to bring you live reporting as it happens inside the courtroom.
12:17 pm: Answering a comment. Jaime Lintemoot testified on Day 13 & Day 14 of the trial. Who knows if they are going over testimony in order, or if they are following issues that each juror is raising. It's all speculation at this point.
On a personal note, no, Mr. Sprocket is not going to be a CPA. He is going for his contractor's license in his field. He's halfway there.
12:30 pm: Answering a comment. In the read back, Jaime Lintemoot testified on direct that she saw small, mist like spatter on the back of Lana Clarkson's wrists. She also indicated that the back of the wrists is where she placed the swab to take a sample.
12:38 pm: Answering a comment. Our kitties are doing fine. They are Sprocket, Scout and Jumpy. Scout recovered well from his surgery. (Back in mid December, he got bit by another animal and the wound got infected; it wouldn't heal. He had emergency surgery to clean out the wound.) Scout is adjusting well to being an inside cat. We think he's put on five pounds from just eating and sleeping. It's obvious that he now weighs more than Sprocket. Sprocket is starting to lose a bit of weight. He's fifteen. Jumpy is still very shy and afraid of his own shadow. Scout and Jumpy play together the most since they are approximately the same age.
1:06 pm: Answering a comment. I won't know the stop time for lunch or the restart time until I get back inside the courtroom. The courtroom is closed to the public from 12 noon until 1:30 pm.
I just learned that Mr. Sprocket passed his second exam! WooHoo!
1:39 pm: I'm inside the courtroom and I just got the times. They stopped at 12:12 pm and restarted at 1:07 pm
1:41 pm: Answering a comment. Allan Parachini is the department head for the Public Information Office. That is the department that handles all liaison between the court and the public for all LA County Courts. He is in the courtroom now, sitting at the big table on the defense side, working on a what looks like a mini computer. He's with us now as the PIO officer to answer any questions.
1:51 pm: CNN has a reporter sitting inside the courtroom, waiting on a verdict. I do not know if they will be live streaming or not. From what I understand, Beth was just here for the Howard K. Stern arraignment. She has not indicated to me that she will be covering the verdict watch for Spector. I don't think so since there already is a CNN reporter in the room.
1:56 pm: Answering a question. This jury only heard (in testimony) that Lana's thumbnail was broken. That's it. There was nothing presented like the last time, with that mini trial-within-a-trial investigating.
The jury heard in closing arguments from Jackson that the piece of nail was never found at the crime scene by the criminalists. This was in response to Mr. Weinberg's point #14, that the nail was broken and that proved that Lana Clarkson was holding the weapon.
In my opinion, this was brilliant strategy by Jackson to argue this in closing.
Alan Parachini and a reporter chat about various subjects. Other than their conversation, it's quite silent in 106. Linda and Sherri are reading books, Lindy, the CNN reporter is reading a magazine and there is another news/reporter person who has been in here before but I don't know his name.
2:11 pm: Answering a comment. The Associated Press reporter is highly respected among her peers. She is a legend at the Associated Press.
2:12 pm: Answering a comment. The schedule. We were told on Monday it is on a day-by-day basis because at any time, the jury could come back with a verdict. So, there are no projected days/times off. We will be notified if there is any change.
2:16 pm: A reporter tells me that she spoke to Dominick Dunne. He is back home from his treatments in Germany. He was feeling really good when he got back but then he developed an infection and he's not feeling so great right now. He is on medication. He is a fighter. His outlook remains good and he is fighting his disease. I have to say, Dominick is one of the most optimistic people I've had to pleasure to meet. Please go to Dominick's Diary, and leave him some well wishes. I do know he reads them regularly.
2:22 pm: Answering a comment. Regarding commenter "Barry's" work, here is the link to what he worked on. The only thing that the Judge mentioned as for waiting time that I remember was regarding if the jury had a question or requested a readback. That time was 45 minutes at the far end. (Time needed for Spector to be here, inside the courtroom.) Fidler did not mention anything about the verdict. It's my GUESS that time would be as long as it takes to get Spector here and possibly the Clarkson family. Other than than that, I have no clue.
2:27 pm: BUZZ! The jury is taking a break.
2:30 pm: We are being asked to leave for the jury break.
3:00 pm: The bailiff opened the doors back up to 106.
Wendy asks us if we want the times. Yes! She tells us the times are 2:25 pm for the break and 2:47 pm they resumed.
3:06 pm: Katie and Lisa take off. The courtroom gallery is eerily silent again. The new PIO in the room is Mary, who is reading the paper. Lindy is here along with another reporter, who is working the Times crossword. Now Sherri is leaving. We can hear sounds, like possibly coming from courtroom 105.
3:12 pm: Contrary to some of the comments, I don't think the jury is taking that much time for lunch and breaks. For the last two days, they took less than an hour lunch. Yesterday, they deliberated a total of 5 hours. Today, they started as soon as they got in the room. Their breaks are actually shorter than what they were given during testimony. Often times, those breaks took 22 to 25 minutes.
To answer a comment, I don't know if Fidler would let them deliberate past 4:00 pm. Probably not, since this would also mean that the alternates would have to stay, too. The alternates would have to agree beforehand, I would think.
3:17 pm: Answering a comment. It's way too soon to predict a hung jury, or a third trial. Give this jury time to do their work.
3:30 pm: A sheriff comes into 106 (one I've seen before) to raid Wendy's candy jar at the edge of her desk. It is so quiet in 106 the clacking of the clock on the wall above me is quite loud, each time it moves ahead another minute.
3:36 pm: Answering a comment. There have been varying opinions about retrials. Some think there would not be a third and yet some reporters that I've talked to indicate they would retry Spector until they got a verdict. I don't know what the answer is. I think that would not be decided until there actually "is" a second hung jury. In my opinion, it's still way too early to tell.
3:51 pm: Terri Keith from City News enters to wait for the end of deliberations time.
3:52 pm: BUZZ! The jurors have ended deliberations.
We are now waiting for them to exit and see what time they will start tomorrow.
3:56 pm: Fidler comes out to speak to Wendy about something. He is not in his robes. He's wearing one of his sweater vests. And just as quickly returns to his chambers.
3:58 pm: Some of the jury seemed jovial, some had no expressions. Court resumes 9:30 am tomorrow.